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i just faced an issue that made me start this topic.

i realized that someone is running his auction in a wrong format so i did a pm to him saying that " Btw you need to run an auction in complete format =) " Sb: Inc: Bo:(none) cancancel"

 

and got this answer " im following mazepa's auction format :3 "

 

but as we can see here " https://forums.teame...ted-05-01-2016/ " rules over the auctions reminds this.

 

as you see we got to know that players learn from staff and this is indeed because staff are trusted people over the server!

 

so here i want to note that staff are staff to help people obey the rules , not to mix the things up . once a staff is doing some thing he/she must know that its being done in the perfect way ( because they are being watched by normal players ) and this can be a simple auction or etc.

 

this post is only an objection to some wrong things sometimes coming up.

 

At the end i need to appreciate all staff team members and specially raidmax21 and Flox for being diligent to make TeamExtremec improve daily.


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https://forums.teame...ted-05-01-2016/

 

These are the rule for forum auctions in the Buying/Selling thread.


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So... Where's that auction you're talking about?

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https://forums.teame...ted-05-01-2016/

 

These are the rule for forum auctions in the Buying/Selling thread.

i just mentioned the link, read properly before posting a reply!


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So... Where's that auction you're talking about?

it got happened in game,


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it got happened in game,


Ah, I see, however as of now there aren't any rules about ingame auctions..

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https://forums.teame...ted-05-01-2016/

here its mentioned one rule for all.

correct me if i read or understand wrong.

 

Ah, I see, however as of now there aren't any rules about ingame auctions..


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Even tho there are still the rules where people can check and read to get the full information and do w/e they want with the proper format, some may also just copy staffs format which makes sense in a way, tho it can be hilarious.

 

For example, incase you dont know how to appeal, would make sense if u watched a staff appealing and learning from him right...?

 

2piececomboappeal

 

Maybe not :P



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i just mentioned the link, read properly before posting a reply!

Lets see, so here is what the rule states:

 

One rule for all (and in the darkness bind them):

There is to be no editing on auction posts.

 

That all means Auctioneers, bidders, vips, non-vips and staff members.

 

If there were rules for that ingame, it would be mentioned here- http://forums.teamex...2-server-rules/

 

Besides, mazepa is a staff members. He will obviously know what he's doing.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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I'm pretty sure that was for the no editing part

Here is the quote, written normally

"One rule for all (and in the darkness bind them):

There is to be no editing on auction posts. This is to maintain the rules below."

The rules are the same of course, both for ingame and forum auctions, but the format in which you can post them ingame doesn't necessarily have to be identical to the one forums use.


I believe the most common problem with ingame auctions is the "I can cancel" statement. Well if you can cancel, then other people can retract their bids too. Its clear however that not many people understand that...

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I'm pretty sure that was for the no editing part

Here is the quote, written normally

"One rule for all (and in the darkness bind them):

There is to be no editing on auction posts. This is to maintain the rules below."

The rules are the same of course, both for ingame and forum auctions, but the format in which you can post them ingame doesn't necessarily have to be identical to the one forums use.


I believe the most common problem with ingame auctions is the "I can cancel" statement. Well if you can cancel, then other people can retract their bids too. Its clear however that not many people understand that...

so as u say its meant that u can do these things in game :

Editing the text

bidding when u dont have the money

u can cancel when u said no canceling

you have set Bo but u remove it on next text, etc


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N

 

Even tho there are still the rules where people can check and read to get the full information and do w/e they want with the proper format, some may also just copy staffs format which makes sense in a way, tho it can be hilarious.

 

For example, incase you dont know how to appeal, would make sense if u watched a staff appealing and learning from him right...?

 

2piececomboappeal

 

Maybe not :P

not right at all, even when someone wont follow the right appeal format staff would ask him/her to redo it with the correct format.


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so as u say its meant that u can do these things in game :
Editing the text
bidding when u dont have the money
u can cancel when u said no canceling
you have set Bo but u remove it on next text, etc

Please read that again, I said that the rules are the same, only difference is that the format does not have to be the same

I'd also like to see how you can edit ingame auctions, if you know a way, please share:)
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Please read that again, I said that the rules are the same, only difference is that the format does not have to be the same

I'd also like to see how you can edit ingame auctions, if you know a way, please share:)

lmao nice way of going against me !

you try to say that you can disobey the format because it does not have to be same format.

so thats your way! you dont need a hint on it =)


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not right at all, even when someone wont follow the right appeal format staff would ask him/her to redo it with the correct format.

smh read again, ofc staff will ask em to edit their format, even tho this is was a bad example, it makes sense people look up to how staff do and just copy them, i used this example mostly to just joke around.


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lmao nice way of going against me !
you try to say that you can disobey the format because it does not have to be same format.
so thats your way! you dont need a hint on it =)

I don't 'try' to say anything.
Calm your tits, I have nothing against you, I am simply stating facts...
Anything else comes purely out of you.

Three people here, including me are trying to put some sense in you and get you to understand that THERE IS NO OFFICIAL POST ABOUT INGAME AUCTIONS.


I'm pretty sure you didn't even bother to read my post and now that you did youre just trying to pick up a fight.

If you really feel that the format those 2 players used is rule breaking then report them and see where that leads you.
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Hmm, did you even read the rules properly once?

 

Here, there are the forum rules- http://forums.teamex...-3-forum-rules/

 

And if you're too lazy for reading it, I'll tell you what to read specifically.

 

Open the following spoiler:

 

Spoiler

 

Can you please read the underlined red text that. It clearly says those rules are specifically for forums

 

Now, go ahead and read the server rules- http://forums.teamex...2-server-rules/

 

Tell me if there any statement saying that forum auction rules should be followed ingame too.


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Hmm, did you even read the rules properly once?

 

Here, there are the forum rules- http://forums.teamex...-3-forum-rules/

 

And if you're too lazy for reading it, I'll tell you what to read specifically.

 

Open the following spoiler:

 

Spoiler

 

Can you please read the underlined red text that. It clearly says those rules are specifically for forums

 

Now, go ahead and read the server rules- http://forums.teamex...2-server-rules/

 

Tell me if there any statement saying that forum auction rules should be followed ingame too.

 

 

I don't 'try' to say anything.
Calm your tits, I have nothing against you, I am simply stating facts...
Anything else comes purely out of you.

Three people here, including me are trying to put some sense in you and get you to understand that THERE IS NO OFFICIAL POST ABOUT INGAME AUCTIONS.


I'm pretty sure you didn't even bother to read my post and now that you did youre just trying to pick up a fight.

If you really feel that the format those 2 players used is rule breaking then report them and see where that leads you.

okay you both calm down lol. the thing im just stating here now is getting to be clear.

just stop repeating  the same shit.

i do understand the rules and i do understand what im talking about.

so in future i will keep this in mind that " not following the auction rules in game is legal due to its not stated that it should be followed in game."said slateyo

and try not to showing yourselves too rude. as i said this topic was just and objection to some wrong things happening.

so atm i would ask staff to clear this out or maybe we can wait for " NoRetribution " to clear this out for all.


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okay you both calm down lol. the thing im just stating here now is getting to be clear.

just stop repeating  the same shit.

i do understand the rules and i do understand what im talking about.

so in future i will keep this in mind that " not following the auction rules in game is legal due to its not stated that it should be followed in game."said slateyo

and try not to showing yourselves too rude. as i said this topic was just and objection to some wrong things happening.

so atm i would ask staff to clear this out or maybe we can wait for " NoRetribution " to clear this out for all.

Repeating the same shit? we do that because like you do not understand something that requires a minimum amount of brain cells to do so. And please, you have a brain.. learn to use it. I just told what I had to, not my problem if you call it 'rude' and auction rules were meant to be for forum purpose only, to be followed here. There is no such rule that states that those rules have to be followed in-game.

 

If you understood what I meant, use common sense. In mazepa's format, there is a starting bid, which means the minimum bid increment can be anything ranging from a single cent to 1 million dollars and the buyout can be anything too. It is in his hands whether he reserves the right to cancel. As seen in ban appeals, it is to be mentioned that you can cancel an auction if you do mention it in you message in trade chat.. if you do not, you cannot cancel the auction and bidders cannot retract. Now, what you are asking can be understood by a person with a single brain cell that if there is no minimum bid increment mentioned, you can increase your bid by any number till the auctioneer decides to sell it to a bidder.

 

Hopefully you at least now understood what I meant earlier like the other two players. We're just trying to make you understand a simple thing. Would be better if you did, if not wait for staff's reply. I will not reply to this thread unless its something regarding my information.

 

~Slateyo.


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Guess i'll have to end this shit eh?

 

INGAME AUCTION IS NOT ALWAYS SAME AS FORUMS

 

For ingame, all you need to do is a starting bid and the items. The rest are just extra if you want to add it or not, it's your choice.

 

The rules were made like years ago, and it's old as fuck. Of course its your choice to following or not. But don't apply it to others just because they don't satisfy you.

 

Tell me, how many auction you have made ingame and forums? And did you just auction them in the same way? Like a programmed robot? Or you're a human?

 

Think twice before posting something sensitive on forums, mate.


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